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All the work without the reward- why an SMSF isn’t for everyone

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There is never one perfect plan when you set out to achieve something. Planning and saving for retirement is no different. There are many different strategies and investment vehicles available which may provide a suitable outcome. However, the experience of the investor or retiree along the journey can differ depending on the plan chosen and investment vehicle used.

One such vehicle is a Self-Managed Super Fund or ‘SMSF’ which is a type of superannuation fund and can be a suitable vehicle for retirement savings for certain clients. We find that pre retirees and retirees often ask ‘is an SMSF right for me’? We feel there is already enough promotion of SMSF happening so we would like to provide our anecdotal experience from real clients in our client base who have already gone done that path and had negative experiences when using an SMSF and had exited these arrangements before meeting with us.

We have observed two types of clients who have found that an SMSF wasn’t for them. The first group were more financially astute clients, tertiary educated professionals with higher balances in their superannuation (we will call them Group 1) and the second group were less financially savvy clients, working in clerical and trade roles with smaller superannuation balances (we will call them Group 2).

Group 1 clients normally ended up with an SMSF- with the promise of more control, investment choice and cost economies of scale. One client remarked it seemed like a smart thing to do and to be able to tell his friends about. However, the feedback we received was that they ended up with was more work managing the fund (during their limited personal non work time), numerous headaches and responsibilities which provided an added burden on them, and unnecessary complexity added to their already busy lives.  Setting up an SMSF fund and running one was like managing a small business and the process of closing down the fund was arduous, long and for one client ‘a nightmare’. These clients were also not using the SMSF for strategic purposes such as holding direct property or business premises which would require such a structure. So the outcome was higher costs than could have been achieved in other superannuation structures and with investment returns that didn’t compensate them for the extra cost, time and complexity.

Our Group 2 clients unfortunately ended up with an SMSF after being sold on a property related investment first and then having an SMSF arranged as part of the transaction. There are many operators often linked to sales of new property projects who exist outside of the licensed financial advice space – providing unofficial investment advice without the qualifications, regulation and consumer protections that licenced financial advisers offer. There exist considerable conflicts of interest where these promoters are paid solely on selling one particular property to as many clients as possible (whereas licensed financial advisers cannot receive commissions or invectives from superannuation and investment providers and are instead paid transparent fees by clients directly for their advice).

Our clients said they felt pushed into a property deal with an SMSF set up later to hold the investment. Some had balances far below the suggested minimums required to make an SMSF viable. These clients did not have the experience, expertise or desire to be the trustee of their own fund.  They said they found the whole experience complex, confusing and far beyond their comfort levels. With all of their retirement savings wrapped in one single investment they also had a massive risk of having all their eggs in one basket (trustees of other types of superannuation funds wouldn’t allow this diversification risk).

Alternatively, modern superannuation platforms with a professional trustee can provide many of the benefits clients sought in an SMSF. These clients can enjoy competitive cost structures, extensive investment choice and the many superannuation strategies and taxation advantages of superannuation that exist in all superannuation types.

But unlike an SMSF- they also have very low levels of responsibility and time involvement, and these two groups of clients now feel more comfortable, less stressed and have a suitable vehicle for their retirement savings without the hassle of an SMSF.

The Commonwealth government’s MoneySmart site has an objective overview of SMSF’s which outlines key considerations- https://moneysmart.gov.au/how-super-works/self-managed-super-funds-smsf.

If you are considering if an SMSF is the right vehicle for your retirement savings- please get in touch and we can ensure you are using a suitable vehicle in the journey up to and through retirement.

The information contained on this site is general in nature and has been prepared without considering your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should, before acting on any advice, consider its appropriateness to your circumstances (including your objectives, financial situation and needs). You should also consider the relevant PDS before making any decision about any product.

 

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2. How do we collect and hold personal information about you?

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  • Permitted health situations.

2.6 We may hold your information electronically or physically and have in place appropriate data and physical security measures and protocols to protect that information from loss or from disclosure not contemplated by this Policy.


3. What type of personal information do we collect?

3.1 The type of personal information we may collect from you includes (but is not limited to):

  • Names, address, email, phone numbers, and job titles;
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  • Tax file numbers (TFNs) and other identification numbers such as Medicare number;
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  • Financial information;
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5. How do we disclose your personal information?

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  • To our employees, contractors, consultants, dealers, agents, or advisors as required to provide our services to you or for related purposes;
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5.2 We may use, store, process, or back-up your personal information on servers that are located overseas (including through third-party service providers). The privacy laws in other countries might not be the same as in Australia. However, where we provide your personal information to third parties overseas, we will take such steps as are reasonable to ensure that your information is handled and stored in accordance with Australian privacy laws and this Policy. Currently, we use outsourced service providers in the Philippines, India, and Serbia.


6. Access to your personal information

6.1 You can request us to provide you with access to personal information we hold about you by sending us an email: privacy@count.au (no spam please) or writing to us at Level 1, 45 Clarence Street, Sydney NSW 2000.

6.2 We may allow an inspection of your personal information in person, or provide copies or a summary of relevant documents, depending on what is the most appropriate in the circumstances. Any charge we make for providing access will be reasonable and will not apply to lodging a request for access. Your request to access your personal information will be dealt with in a reasonable time.

6.3 Note that we need not provide access to personal information if a request is frivolous, or where to provide access would pose a threat to health or public safety, unreasonable interference with another person’s privacy, or be a breach of the law. If we refuse access, we will provide you with reasons for doing so.


7. Accuracy and correction

7.1 To enable us to keep our records properly, please notify us if you believe that any information we hold about you is inaccurate, incomplete, or out of date and we will take reasonable steps, in the circumstances, to ensure that it is corrected. You can notify us by sending us an email: privacy@count.au (no spam please) or writing to us at Level 1, 45 Clarence Street, Sydney NSW 2000.


8. Our security procedures

8.1 We take your privacy and the privacy of our associated entities and their clients very seriously. We will take reasonable steps in the circumstances to protect any personal information you provide to us from misuse, interference, or loss and unauthorised access, modification, and disclosure.

8.2 We will also deidentify and destroy the personal information we hold about you once our legal obligations cease. Our security procedures are reviewed from time to time and we update them when relevant.

8.3 Please be aware that the transmission of data over the internet is never guaranteed to be completely secure. It is possible that third parties not under our control may be able to access or intercept transmissions or private communications without our permission or knowledge. We take all reasonable steps, in the circumstances, to protect your personal information. However, we cannot ensure or warrant the security of any information you transmit to us. Such transmissions are done at your own risk.


9. Data breach notification

9.1 We are required to give notice to the Office of the Australian Information Commissioner (OAIC) and affected individuals of an “eligible data breach”. This means that if we hold personal information about you, and there is unauthorised access to or disclosure of your personal information, and if you, as the “affected individual” would be likely to suffer serious harm from this access or disclosure, we must notify both you and the OAIC.

9.2 “Serious harm” could include identity theft, threats to physical safety, economic and financial harm, harm to reputation, embarrassment, discrimination, or harassment. The test is whether a “reasonable person” would expect you to suffer serious harm.

9.3 If you are likely to suffer serious harm from a data breach, we will notify you of:

  • The nature of the eligible data breach (i.e., how the information was accessed or disclosed);
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  • The steps that we have taken to control or reduce the harm, and those that we plan to take;
  • Any assistance we can offer you, such as arranging for credit monitoring;
  • Anything that we can suggest you can do to assist yourself or mitigate the harm;
  • Whether the breach has also been notified to the OAIC;
  • How you can contact us for information or to complain; and
  • How to make a complaint with the OAIC.

9.4 We will notify you using the same method that we usually use to communicate with you. If it is not practicable for us to notify you personally, we will publish the notification on our website.

9.5 There are some circumstances in which we do not have to notify you of a data breach. These include:

  • Where we have taken remedial action before any serious harm has been caused by the breach;
  • If you have been notified of the breach by another entity;
  • If notification would be inconsistent with Commonwealth secrecy laws; or
  • Where the OAIC declares that notification does not have to be given.

9.6 Depending on the nature of the breach and the harm, we may voluntarily inform other third parties such as the police or other regulators or professional bodies.


10. Identifiers

10.1 We will not adopt as our own any government identifiers you may provide to us such as TFNs and will not store these identifiers on any information.


11. Links to other sites

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13. Changes to our Privacy Policy

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13.2 By continuing to use our website and continuing to provide us with your information, you confirm your acceptance of these changes.


14. Complaints resolution

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